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john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good sense, richard, of how many republicans or maybe democrats for that matter, aren't so worried about going over the fiscal cliff at this point? >> i don't actually buy this argument that people are happy going over the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to
john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good sense, richard, of how many republicans or maybe democrats for that matter, aren't so worried about...
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boehner to negotiate directly with the president of the united states. but now a number of democrats including white house officials believe mcconnell be key. >> we ar engaged in -- we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i could make and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> sources say speaker boehner deferred to their meeting and he told them the house leaders would consider, accept or amend their plan. >> house republicans have moved up a meeting that we know is scheduled for monday. i understand now it is going to happen potentially tomorrow night. should we take that as a good sign? >> well, harris, several key republican sources say the feeling is getting house republicans together sooner rather than later to get a sense of their thinking after they return to the capital. one critical issue in all of this is the threshold that will be set for ks tending the -- for extending the bush tax cuts. >> the 400 level is seems about ri
boehner to negotiate directly with the president of the united states. but now a number of democrats including white house officials believe mcconnell be key. >> we ar engaged in -- we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i could make and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> sources say speaker boehner deferred to their meeting and he told them the house...
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even with john boehner were to come to obama with a deal, john boehner is being held host and by members of his own caucus who won't let him do that. boehner can work with democrats to get it passnd and throw some of his support with the democrats to get it passed but the problem for john boehner is he has an election coming up for his own leadership position on january 3 and he is afraid to do that. >> laura: again, and i understand why julie is saying this because the republicans don't have a ton of leverage here, stephen. >> they don't. >> they have very little leverage. >> all of the taxes go up, lawyer, a as you know, on january 2. >> is it that bad for president obama if we go over the cliff, oh, throw the nation into recession and lose all these jobs but he views everything through a political lens does he not? >> he does. >> laura: i think they made the calculation this won't hurt them one bit and they have gotten the peg on the tea he party and boehner or something. >> the president has said that by the way of the negotiations and john boehner made the statement the other day th
even with john boehner were to come to obama with a deal, john boehner is being held host and by members of his own caucus who won't let him do that. boehner can work with democrats to get it passnd and throw some of his support with the democrats to get it passed but the problem for john boehner is he has an election coming up for his own leadership position on january 3 and he is afraid to do that. >> laura: again, and i understand why julie is saying this because the republicans don't...
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this isn't john boehner's problem to solve." seriously. that is what he said. he said don't blame us, we're just the speaker of the house of representatives and the minority leader of the u.s. senate and the guys who aren't allowing the president to pass his plan. but you know, we've got nothing to do with this. you know, congress comes first in the constitution. tax bills -- and this is going to fundamentally be a tax bill when we pass it. they have to begin in the house of representatives. they can't originate in the white house. the president can't write legislation or pass it sifl. the founders would have been shocked to hear congressional leaders talking this way. but put that aside. mccollum basically said to reid i can't help on this one. how did harry reid respond? this way. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go, in fact. they're not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> right.
this isn't john boehner's problem to solve." seriously. that is what he said. he said don't blame us, we're just the speaker of the house of representatives and the minority leader of the u.s. senate and the guys who aren't allowing the president to pass his plan. but you know, we've got nothing to do with this. you know, congress comes first in the constitution. tax bills -- and this is going to fundamentally be a tax bill when we pass it. they have to begin in the house of...
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after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion in revenue and the president doubles the number. then last week he said all right let's try and get as many after hostages out alive and try as keep taxes from going up and we couldn't get a single democrat to join with us on a single bill introduced this summer which was saving all taxpayers a million dollars and below from the tax rates going on. not a single democrat would join with us. this didn't a problem of two well intentioned negotiators not able to come up with a deal. this is the house having to negotiate with itself and the president who i believe is beginning to show his cards which is someone who doesn't really want to deal, who for whatever reason believes that it is to his political benefit or are a potential gain for us to go over this cliff to try and make us look obstinate in the house. >> greta: i have the president's statements so i will pick on him. he says i had a good and constructive discussion h
after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion in revenue and the president doubles the number. then last week he said all right let's try and get as many after hostages out alive and try as keep taxes from going up and we couldn't get a single democrat to join with us on a single bill introduced this summer which was saving all taxpayers a million dollars and below from the tax rates going on....
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essentially what john boehner is saying, you go first, harry reid. harry reid is trying to jam mitch mcconnell into allowing this vote to go forward without the 60-vote threshold, something that's necessary for virtually every vote here in the senate and mitch mcconnell says it's time for president obama to lead. the threshold question is, can something pass the house of representatives? can john boehner put something on the floor that needs the majority of democrat support that will not get republican support and none to speak of that would allow taxes to go up for people making more than $250,000 or 400,000 as was in the president's last offer and the answer to that question remains very, very unlikely. so we are where we are. this ain't schoolhouse rock, that's for sure. it's not like the house passes a bill, the senate passes a bill. this is a stand yau and the looks like the ultimate version of white house gridlock. >> right. and you mentioned the threshold. we have senator murkily on later today to talk about how crucial the filibuster is. i wa
essentially what john boehner is saying, you go first, harry reid. harry reid is trying to jam mitch mcconnell into allowing this vote to go forward without the 60-vote threshold, something that's necessary for virtually every vote here in the senate and mitch mcconnell says it's time for president obama to lead. the threshold question is, can something pass the house of representatives? can john boehner put something on the floor that needs the majority of democrat support that will not get...
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i never have known john boehner not to have a plan or idea to have a lead. i think again people overlook in this discussion how much support he had in the caucus. he clearly had somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 posts. this idea that the majority of republicans were against what he was proposing is not true. he had massive support and got no democratic help on the taxes and that probably killed the deal in the end. the speaker retains a lot of support and i suspect whatever he proposes today will get tremendous support in congress. >> your colleagues from ohio said that the big problem here is just continuous blame. both sides blaming each other and no one wanting to make the tough decision to take on something they may not like entirely. do you feel someone is very familiar with the members and your conference that there is too much blame game going on between both sides and people are too fearful of making the tough vote. it's a profile in courage. >> i think there is a lot of principaled opposition. it's not just the tax issue and the fact that they ha
i never have known john boehner not to have a plan or idea to have a lead. i think again people overlook in this discussion how much support he had in the caucus. he clearly had somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 posts. this idea that the majority of republicans were against what he was proposing is not true. he had massive support and got no democratic help on the taxes and that probably killed the deal in the end. the speaker retains a lot of support and i suspect whatever he proposes today...
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meaning as of right now, john boehner is sticking by the hastert rule. that's very significant because he feels that maybe they get something large scale if they can get a lot of republicans or this is just all for show to show the american people they're still there to the end. >> hold on. 6:30 on sunday? i mean, as harry reid pointed out, that's 48 hours. i mean, in terms of the optics and as you said, it's conference calls and no real details coming from the house republicans on what it is they would accept as harry reid was pointing out. 6:30 on sunday feels like not a real sense of urgency. >> no. it's this idea that they should be around here waiting for something to occur, but the urgency has not really been there to be honest with you either side the last few days. now you're starting to see it from the senate and harry reid. but for the house republicans it's get your ball gown and tuxedo on monday on capitol hill and be ready to stay there all night. this is so fascinating, karen, because the new congress comes in january 3rd. eric cantor said
meaning as of right now, john boehner is sticking by the hastert rule. that's very significant because he feels that maybe they get something large scale if they can get a lot of republicans or this is just all for show to show the american people they're still there to the end. >> hold on. 6:30 on sunday? i mean, as harry reid pointed out, that's 48 hours. i mean, in terms of the optics and as you said, it's conference calls and no real details coming from the house republicans on what...
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house speaker john boehner said, quote, americans elected president obama to lead, not cast blame. the president's comments to be are ironic as a theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anyone that requires him to stand up to his own party. brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to george w. bush, debby dingle from mish michigan to talk about us. deb y the timing of the president's interview seems a bit like taunting. was that the point or something else? >> i don't think it was taunting and i think you continue to see the president throughout the day say we've do the to try to negotiate to get ourself an answer. he has worked and worked with republicans trying to find a solution. i think everybody agrees, i pray everybody agrees, democrats and republicans alike, that not solving this and doing over the fiscal cliff is not an option. that means everybody has to give. etches stating a -- he was stating a fact and reinforced all day today he's working towards finding a solution. >> brad, are the republicans having a sour grapes because they didn't take to the airw
house speaker john boehner said, quote, americans elected president obama to lead, not cast blame. the president's comments to be are ironic as a theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anyone that requires him to stand up to his own party. brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to george w. bush, debby dingle from mish michigan to talk about us. deb y the timing of the president's interview seems a bit like taunting. was that the point or something else? >> i don't...
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>> he took a shot at john boehner on meet the press. presidential leadership trying to get the deal done doesn't take the political shots even when they are easy because you are trying to get the deal done. the big deals don't happen without presidential leadership. this is good politics but it's not good policy. it may be good politics makes bad policy. >> isn't the problem ultimately spending? the busheir raw tax cuts. some say it is going to come. covered it about a week with the budget we have. isn't the problem spending. aren't they identifying what we need to cut, dowling. >> i think it's both. i think it's revenue and spending. rep republicans are low to raise revenue and republicans slow to cut programs. i think the issue is a balanced approach like simpson where you raise ed one-quarter of the revenue you reform medicare and medicaid and you take on the military. if you do that in a balanced way but neither side is talking that way and it leaves us the american people at risk. >> at least the house is doing something. the senat
>> he took a shot at john boehner on meet the press. presidential leadership trying to get the deal done doesn't take the political shots even when they are easy because you are trying to get the deal done. the big deals don't happen without presidential leadership. this is good politics but it's not good policy. it may be good politics makes bad policy. >> isn't the problem ultimately spending? the busheir raw tax cuts. some say it is going to come. covered it about a week with the...
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not john boehner. john boehner's allowed himself to be captured by the fellows. he is above and beyond that. i think he's basically trying to do the right thing but he can't get a vote out of his own party for his own legislation. who does he turn to? the president of the united states? more worried about getting a proposition from the president to turn down then what proposition is he talking about? i think the president has been more than willing to compromise and the democrats in the house of representatives. we need 30 votes to get beyond our 190 that we have now. 191 in the house and 218 to pass anything. i think if harry reid does it, fine. let him do it. we need to think of what the country needs more than what each party does and concerned about the election on january 3rd? if nothing happens, he may have to worry about the election, john boehner. what i would advise him to do, he doesn't seek my advice, let me give you some advice. be what you want to be. do what you have to do. and democrats will support you if you do that. >> do you think at this point
not john boehner. john boehner's allowed himself to be captured by the fellows. he is above and beyond that. i think he's basically trying to do the right thing but he can't get a vote out of his own party for his own legislation. who does he turn to? the president of the united states? more worried about getting a proposition from the president to turn down then what proposition is he talking about? i think the president has been more than willing to compromise and the democrats in the house...
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then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time, between senator reid and senator mcconnell, than i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital lifeline of unemployment insurance to 2 million american looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. you guys, i can hear you over there. i believe such a proposal
then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an...
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the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point.
the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what...
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house speaker john boehner will be back but for now he's throwing the ball in the democrat's court. some republicans are saying the president isn't trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> when i listen to the president i think he's eager to go over for a political purposes. he gets all of this additional tax revenue for programs he gets to cut the military canwhich democrats have been calling for for years. he gets to blame republicans for it. >> independent senator joe leiber than is saying it is appearing more likely the deadline will pass with no action. harris? >> how soon can we expect negotiations to get back underway? >> wednesday at the earliest possibly friday. one of his democratic allies today that position should come as no surprise to any one. >> i know it's hard for the republicans. 2.50 no tax increases for people below but taxes for people above. 60 percent of the voters will be there for the exit polls. >> nothing is done by year's end taxes will go up for everyone. >> steve sen acentanni thank yoy much. >> he has been hospitalized from before thanksgiving with a linge
house speaker john boehner will be back but for now he's throwing the ball in the democrat's court. some republicans are saying the president isn't trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> when i listen to the president i think he's eager to go over for a political purposes. he gets all of this additional tax revenue for programs he gets to cut the military canwhich democrats have been calling for for years. he gets to blame republicans for it. >> independent senator joe leiber than is...
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footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> harris: tonight, that is exactly where we stand. at the edge of a cliff throwing blame for how you we got here. a lot of finger pointing and no answers as i said and just days remaining until tax increases and spending cuts all kick in and we all feel the pain. mike emanuel live with the news for us tonight on capitol hill. top democrats seem to be suggesting they cannot cut a deal without republican help. >> well, harris, that is right. and so they are asking what it will take to at least get some republican support. they say time is so critical. they cannot just roll out new legislation only to have the republicans reject it. we know president obama called the top four congressional leaders last night on his way back from hawaii. tom
footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> harris: tonight, that is exactly where we stand. at the edge of a cliff throwing blame for how you we got here....
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there's only one person who is negotiating on behalf of the house and that's john boehner. and frequently he's negotiating by himself. i'll say this, it's good for us to go home to the people we work for so we can get an earful, as i have gotten over the last three or four days, whether it's the grocery store or church or wal-mart or this morning while i was running someone stopped me and gave me an earful, which i very much need. so if you are going on vacation, then, no, it's not a good thing to leave d.c. if you are going home and getting an earful from the people you are supposed to represent and work for, then i would say it's better spent coming home to district than it is staying up there and naming post offices. >> you are right about that. congressman trey. it's always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you. >> yes, ma'am, you too. >> and tonight the gun control battle is exploding. a suburban new york paper publishing the names and addresses of gun owners. who who does the interactive map really put in danger? steven joins us now. hi. great to have you tonight. >
there's only one person who is negotiating on behalf of the house and that's john boehner. and frequently he's negotiating by himself. i'll say this, it's good for us to go home to the people we work for so we can get an earful, as i have gotten over the last three or four days, whether it's the grocery store or church or wal-mart or this morning while i was running someone stopped me and gave me an earful, which i very much need. so if you are going on vacation, then, no, it's not a good thing...
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the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all they were told is lawmakers will get 48 hours' notice if and when they need to come back to session. the talks first stall over the preferred option of plan "a." moving from the income level of $250,000 to $400,000. the focus shifted to plan "b," boehner fallback and would have raised tax on those making $1 million but failed when could not get republican votes. >> all eyes turn to the senate that could be key to a deal on plan "c." scaled-back bill that the president says will focus on unemployment benefits and reverting to the 250,000 level on taxes. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. >> that means taxes go up for some now and spending cut on medicare and other programs are kicked to another date. >> what the president offere
the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all they were told is lawmakers will get 48 hours' notice if and when they need to come back to session. the talks first stall over the preferred option of plan "a." moving from the income level of $250,000 to $400,000. the focus shifted to plan "b," boehner fallback and would have raised tax on those making $1 million but failed when could not...
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leaders claiming they'll be willing to go back to work and work toward a deal, but john boehner says the white house proposal doesn't quite go far enough to reduce massive government spending. failure to reach an agreement by december 31st will trigger tax hikes and spending cuts as you know by now. final results expected tomorrow in egypt's constitutional referendum. there have been weeks of protest over the constitution there, which opponents say gives too much power to the president and his supporters. egypt's vice-president just resigned and we know that that constitution has passed now. it eliminates his position and there's also word that the governor of egypt's central bank quit this weekend as well. i'm harris falkner, now back to huckabee. ♪ >> the pro-lifers whose pro he abortion debate has been heating up in ireland after the death of a pregnant indian woman. she was admitted to the hospital in pain. and asking for aabortion, believing she miscarried the baby. the doctors refused to abort, saying the heartbeat was present. and abortion is illegal in ireland, a catholic c
leaders claiming they'll be willing to go back to work and work toward a deal, but john boehner says the white house proposal doesn't quite go far enough to reduce massive government spending. failure to reach an agreement by december 31st will trigger tax hikes and spending cuts as you know by now. final results expected tomorrow in egypt's constitutional referendum. there have been weeks of protest over the constitution there, which opponents say gives too much power to the president and his...
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but really with the senate, john boehner, eric cantor with mccarthy and morris are saying is there are two bills the house passed to deal with the fiscal cliff that are now over the united states senate. if the senate wants to do anything with them, amend them and send them back to the house and perhaps the house will act on it. essentially what boehner is saying is we're not making any moves until the senate amends the two bills we passed over or sends a new one. what are in those bills? well, they essentially extend the bush tax cuts permanently for all earners. and then to avert the sequester and other types of cuts, they make what a lot of liberals have called draconian cuts to meals on wheels, food stamps. it goes into discretionary spending. the house passed bills are absolutely would go nowhere. and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the response i would expect f
but really with the senate, john boehner, eric cantor with mccarthy and morris are saying is there are two bills the house passed to deal with the fiscal cliff that are now over the united states senate. if the senate wants to do anything with them, amend them and send them back to the house and perhaps the house will act on it. essentially what boehner is saying is we're not making any moves until the senate amends the two bills we passed over or sends a new one. what are in those bills? well,...
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>> is the president setting up house speaker john boehner here for a majority of the house vote? >> that's the real question right now. right now, the focus is on the senate. what does harry reid do? does he blink obama's plan to the floor or try to work with mcconnell in this 11th hour. you will have a tough vote for many house republicans. if that level is at 250 and it includes unemployment, make it so republicans may not. >> joy, do you think we have a deal? >> you know, ill'm still very dubious. but if there is a deal, it will be with a majority of democrats in the house and there's a political risk for boehner in that. >> thank you. you've been watching "hardball." we'll be back in one hour with an all-new live edition. until then, "politics nation" starts rite now. >> thanks, richard. thanks to you for tuning in. breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesse
>> is the president setting up house speaker john boehner here for a majority of the house vote? >> that's the real question right now. right now, the focus is on the senate. what does harry reid do? does he blink obama's plan to the floor or try to work with mcconnell in this 11th hour. you will have a tough vote for many house republicans. if that level is at 250 and it includes unemployment, make it so republicans may not. >> joy, do you think we have a deal? >> you...
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is it john boehner? was it mitt romney? don't bet on it. the real boss is a man other woman in the back row of a tea party meeting. the angry one who stands up and scalds him. it's that angry voice rising up from the back of the room that haunts the tea party-backed republican. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership? or, worse yet, the democratic president? or do they want to vote against all of that? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the wall that those of the tea party have raised up. they can't vote for what they campaigned against, spending money on government. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight, in new york city, welcome to "politics nation" second annual revvie awards. it's the best and the worst in politics, 2012. look, all the big stars are on the red carpet. donald trump is in the unreality show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there? >> and what's an awards
is it john boehner? was it mitt romney? don't bet on it. the real boss is a man other woman in the back row of a tea party meeting. the angry one who stands up and scalds him. it's that angry voice rising up from the back of the room that haunts the tea party-backed republican. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership? or, worse yet, the democratic president? or do they want to vote against all of that? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the...
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. >> they're willing to take us over the fiscal cliff essentially controls john boehner, preventing him from being able to make any reasonable deal to avoid taxes increasing on 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. >> being held hostage. knew that the clock was ticking. >> well, i don't know if it's so much that he boxed himself in. there is a fact out there that we now see more districts represented by people who win by over 20%, so they are hyper-partisan. yes, there are more republicans who are hyper-partisan than there are democrats. >> is boehner betting on the president losing? >> i don't know. i think what he was betting on is he could play his cards a little better. where he really lost control was on the parliament b move. i don't know what happened there. i think peel were hopeful they could come to a deal, but for a big deal to happen action he wood to have gone without the majority in congress, that could have led to a bigger deal, which he wasn't ready to do now, but perhaps after he's reelected speaker with the new congress in, he could put forward. >> we all have
. >> they're willing to take us over the fiscal cliff essentially controls john boehner, preventing him from being able to make any reasonable deal to avoid taxes increasing on 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. >> being held hostage. knew that the clock was ticking. >> well, i don't know if it's so much that he boxed himself in. there is a fact out there that we now see more districts represented by people who win by over 20%, so they are hyper-partisan. yes, there...
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president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans is between democrats who love taxes, just want to tax everything. and republicans who totally grover norquist taxes, they hate them, that is not true. to a degree that kind of disturbs me, actually, the two parties mostly agree on keeping the bush tax cuts. up to $250,000 in income, which is a lot of income. republicans and democrats want to keep all the bush tax cuts. that's way more than
president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't...
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then you had plan b from john boehner, that failed as well. this is basically plan c. just deal with extending tax cuts for the middle class. deal with unemployment benefits running out for 2 million people and then deal with some small spending cuts. but not deal with the big, big spending cuts on medicare and some of those entitlement programs. that's one thing that frustrates republicans. they think the can is being kicked down on an important piece of this. spending. i can tell you earlier today republican ron lamar said the president is not doing enough. >> we need two words. presidential leadership on not just taxes rich people, we can tax all the rich people and cut their heads up and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. we need to do both and the president has to lead it it and if he does i'm ready to work with him and so are a lot of other republicans and democrats. >> lamar alexander demanding presidential leadership but also making that point that it's not just about taxes. it's also about spending, harris. >> harris: you and ed talk about -- you and
then you had plan b from john boehner, that failed as well. this is basically plan c. just deal with extending tax cuts for the middle class. deal with unemployment benefits running out for 2 million people and then deal with some small spending cuts. but not deal with the big, big spending cuts on medicare and some of those entitlement programs. that's one thing that frustrates republicans. they think the can is being kicked down on an important piece of this. spending. i can tell you earlier...
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. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment benefits and delay dramatic spending cuts until late next year. top senate republicans sound hopeful a deal can be reached. >> we are engaged in discussions, majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> among the issues to be hammered out shall the threshold for extending the push tax cuts and president obama campaigned and sounds like, 400,000 may be where they're heading. a leader says that permanency is key, and fixing the deat
. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment...
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speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate if the senate will not approve and send them to the president to be signed into law in their current form. they must be amended and returned to the house. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate must first act. the house has passed bills that would never pass the senate. speaker boehner's position is a joke. senate majority leader harry reid responded, house republicans pushed middle class families closer to the blip by wasting an entire week with their incompetent plan b stunt no further legislation can move through the senate until republicans drop their knee jerk obstruction. the house is literally ph
speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate if the senate will not approve and send them to...
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what's john boehner thinking going into this meeting? what do they hope to get if anything from it? >> what i'm hearing more broadly, luke is that there are so many conversations going on right now. and there seems to be more interest in one of the ideas that boehner has talked about which is use what the house has already passed which would extend all of the tax rates where they are right now and then amend it. and part of what is happening here is what can be done in terms of the wheels of legislation, what can be done in terms of political will. lots of conversations are happening. what we are learning is that no new paper has traded hands, if you will, so no actual proposals have been exchanged. will are very substantive discussions going on between people who are at a senior level in these negotiations. looking at ways they can probably bridge thing divide. some of the things we have been talking about is put the income tax rates somewhere in the neighborhood of 400,000. deal with some of the other concerns about estate taxes. deal with unemployment been pits. there is a whole
what's john boehner thinking going into this meeting? what do they hope to get if anything from it? >> what i'm hearing more broadly, luke is that there are so many conversations going on right now. and there seems to be more interest in one of the ideas that boehner has talked about which is use what the house has already passed which would extend all of the tax rates where they are right now and then amend it. and part of what is happening here is what can be done in terms of the wheels...
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that will be up to john boehner's leadership. i think that john boehner wants to get something done. he is a deal maker. but he has 80, 90, 100 members in the caucus who refuse to take yes for an answer, as the president said. so i agreew on the overall issue of the debt. i think that's why the president put forward a plan on a grand bargain to get $4 trillion in deficit reduction, but that wouldn't have been able to pass the house. so, short term, mcconnell and reid, they are dealt makers. they have done this before. long term or over the next two, three, four week, it will be in john boehner's hands with the president doing a lot of prodding. >> i think that speaker boehner -- really it does depend on what happens in the september. but i think if they were discussing on the sunday show this is morning, if they're going to be 60% of republicans in the senate who vote for it, i absolutely think that speaker boehner is going to go along with this and so we can get this short-term deal done, put this to rest and move on to the bigg
that will be up to john boehner's leadership. i think that john boehner wants to get something done. he is a deal maker. but he has 80, 90, 100 members in the caucus who refuse to take yes for an answer, as the president said. so i agreew on the overall issue of the debt. i think that's why the president put forward a plan on a grand bargain to get $4 trillion in deficit reduction, but that wouldn't have been able to pass the house. so, short term, mcconnell and reid, they are dealt makers....
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. >> wake of house speaker john boehner's plan "b" failure, all eyes turn to senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other republicans note the president short-term fix raises some taxes, yet punt spending cuts until next year. >> i would vote for revenue, including the tax rate hike though i don't like them to get, to save the country from becoming greece. i'm not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >> if the president does return to washington this week, unclear whether he will come back here to hawaii for new year's with his family. joe lieberman says he expects the senate to be in session on new year's eve, working on a deal down to the wire. >> thank you, ed. markets dropped on shortened day of trading. dow fell 52. s&p 500 lost 3.5. nasda
. >> wake of house speaker john boehner's plan "b" failure, all eyes turn to senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other...
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now we are hearing that both president obama and and john boehner are preparing to get back to washington. if they can't work out an agreement and we go over the fiscal cliff it of course will mean smaller paychecks and automatic hefty spending cuts. according to economists possibly another recession. with just days until that deadline, time to cut a deal is rapidly running out. ed henry with the president in honolulu, hawaii. ed, as we get this news. possibly the president leaving his vacation early? >> that's right, jamie. we are now learning from an administration official that it is likely the president will be leaving hawaii tomorrow. probably in the evening to get back to washington early thursday. possibly meet with congressional leaders. start working the phones, trying to move this forward because, frankly, when you talk to administration officials in private, they admit this is pretty tall right now because the president hasn't had a conversation with speaker boehner since last friday. now, if there is any hope in any of this, it's the fact that the president's aides say that bo
now we are hearing that both president obama and and john boehner are preparing to get back to washington. if they can't work out an agreement and we go over the fiscal cliff it of course will mean smaller paychecks and automatic hefty spending cuts. according to economists possibly another recession. with just days until that deadline, time to cut a deal is rapidly running out. ed henry with the president in honolulu, hawaii. ed, as we get this news. possibly the president leaving his vacation...
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house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >> juliet: yeah. >> clayton: that's news. i'll make sure i'm there. gregg: fox news alert. millions at the mercy of mother nature this morning after a massive storms slams the northeast bringing snow, rain, high winds, icy road conditions. more than 50 flights have been canceled today following the grounding of more than 1700 the day before. coming up in minutes we'll go live to anna kooiman live in scranton, pennsylvania where folks are trying to dig out from more than a foot of snow. but first, bad weather making be delaying lawmakers plans to get back to the negotiating table in washington, d.c. good morning, i'm gregg jarrett in "america's newsroom.". patti ann: freight to be with you again, gregg. i'm patti
house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >> juliet: yeah. >> clayton: that's news. i'll make sure i'm there. gregg: fox news alert. millions at the mercy of mother nature this morning after a...
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>> well, john boehner, and it is important to understand that the incentive structure is different for the rank and file and back bench. if you are john boehner, you are more susceptible to the wall street pressure and the can't ter and the people who are aspiring to run for something bigger like paul ryan have a bigger ip sensitive, too. and right now, boehner wants to get re-elected speaker, and so he is trying to walk away from the deal as much as possible to not jeopardize the speakership. so he has technically thrown it to the senate. constitutionally it has to go through both houses. >> just constitutional ly. minor detail. >> and boehner is constitutionally dammed because he is getting out of it and burned too much. so if reid and mcconnell can get through the deal that is not filibustered, they have to amend a bill in the house that extends the tax cuts for everybody, and gut that bill, because it has to emerge from there, and then fill it, and hope and pray that boehner can find 30 republicans to vote for it. >> that is the story that you feel when the president is saying that
>> well, john boehner, and it is important to understand that the incentive structure is different for the rank and file and back bench. if you are john boehner, you are more susceptible to the wall street pressure and the can't ter and the people who are aspiring to run for something bigger like paul ryan have a bigger ip sensitive, too. and right now, boehner wants to get re-elected speaker, and so he is trying to walk away from the deal as much as possible to not jeopardize the...
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it's all john boehner's fault. there is something to that i suppose. >> i think there is some recrimination that could go around but the president is leader. he hasn't led on this in four years. having this last minute type of thing where he comes out and acting tough when he was just away for week in hawaii. everyone deserves a nice christmas holiday but not when we have serious issues that need to be addressed. i don't think the president has led on this. the american people are also partly to blame here. there was an election and he left in place everything the same. the house is the same. senate is basically the same. you voted for basically more of the same. american people don't escape blame either. >> gregg: van hollen basically has the same argument, he has been out for 12 days and vanhollen, boehner would not touk talk to him. i'm not sure i buy that. if it does go to the fiscal cliff and we go over it, sequestration would cut only $109 billion next year. that is actually not a lot in a budget of almost fo
it's all john boehner's fault. there is something to that i suppose. >> i think there is some recrimination that could go around but the president is leader. he hasn't led on this in four years. having this last minute type of thing where he comes out and acting tough when he was just away for week in hawaii. everyone deserves a nice christmas holiday but not when we have serious issues that need to be addressed. i don't think the president has led on this. the american people are also...
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the house will be controlled by john boehner so it is divided. it's the idea that if they go home for christmas break, if they go over the cliff and if they do invest in the debt ceiling, people will get spooked because you hear stories about social security recipients and facing the checks in government. unemployment insurance dried up and payroll tax cuts. the paycheck will show that more is taken out for the tax. that will in turn cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress. it's interesting that we have the same with k. bailey hutchinson. what's gotten her is fleethat t will go home and obama will introduce his own package and they have nothing to do but accept it. or they get blamed for everything. >> can you recall a time in your life and your politics, a couple of years at least, a comparable level of incompetence in washington. >> the last four years. i spent some of the time over the holidays for my since reading about this. my overall reaction is groundhog day. it's the same issues. some of the same players and the same que
the house will be controlled by john boehner so it is divided. it's the idea that if they go home for christmas break, if they go over the cliff and if they do invest in the debt ceiling, people will get spooked because you hear stories about social security recipients and facing the checks in government. unemployment insurance dried up and payroll tax cuts. the paycheck will show that more is taken out for the tax. that will in turn cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress....
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that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told about meetings about ways to avoid the fiscal cliff. not sure how they are going to hammer out details in the house. the principle negotiators. the leadership from both parties could be brought in later in the day. president obama has said, he said yesterday that if those leaders and those congressional negotiators cannot figure out how to compromise, then is he going to tell the senate just to vote anyways because he thinks with an up or down vote, senators with a support the plan that is already out there. the main hold up with the deal so far has been a fight over who should be classifi
that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told...
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there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it seems of the republican caucus in the house of representatives who were unable to accept the results of the election in 2008 and steamed to continue to be unable to accept the results of the election in 2012. thus, they feel they have a license to hold the country hostage because they don't agree with two presidential elections, which is truly, truly if you think about it enough, which i choose not to, is rather bothersome. >> it's bothersome, and it doesn't fit their own agenda. in addition to object structure things they want to keep taxes down for most americans. it's not just about the tea party re
there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it...
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has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last couple of years. on the other hand, when reid and mcdonnell, the two senate leaders get into a room together, they somehow seem to be able to find an accommodation. i think there's much more for compromise with the senate leaders. let them make a deal, i'm sure reid is talking to the president and conversely, mcconnell is talking to boehner what they can go for, but probably to have the actual deal making going on between the two senate leaders. >> dave: chris, i want to say farewell, last time i'll chat with you on air and always a pleasure having a conversation with you on sunday mornings, we apprecia
has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last...